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SHD Biquad 1 month 1 week ago #64360

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Hello,
i'm new to the MiniDSP biquad world so sorry for that (maybe) dumb question.I have a SHD with firmware 1.15. To calculate the biquads I use the spreadsheet v1.2 / v1.3.
I want to create an HPF Filter at 260Hz with an Q of 0,7.
When I copy the values ​​to the SHD I get no curve and absolutely nothing at the outputs.
I tried 96kHz and 48kHz. According to the manual 48 should be used but maybe thats a typo.
As far as i know the SHD works with 96kHz. Both values do not work at all.I don't understand what I'm doing wrong and hope you can help.

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SHD Biquad 1 month 1 week ago #64361

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The SHD uses a 96 kHz internal sample rate.

I've never tried to manually calculate biquads to help more on this, but I take it that the pre-defined crossover fiters don't do what you'd want?

 

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SHD Biquad 1 month 1 week ago #64362

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Exactly, I received some special filters from the manufacturer of my loudspeakers which I would like to copy as exactly as possible.  The 260 Hz filter is just one example.  In the end i would like to understand how it works.

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SHD Biquad 1 week 23 hours ago #64891

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@sacha157, did this get resolved? I have the same issue. I entered the biquad values, pressed Calculate & Apply, no error messages, and absolutely nothing happened, the freq response remained flat.. 2x4HD with the new Device Console.

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SHD Biquad 1 week 20 hours ago #64896

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Jan,

Please post your biquad coefficients.

Dave.

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SHD Biquad 1 week 1 hour ago #64905

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Hi Dave, this is the set the online calculator gave me:

a1 = -1.98682529
a2 = 0.98699552
b0 = 4.25576816e-5
b1 = 8.51153632e-5
b2 = 4.25576816e-5

Online calculator is at arachnoid.com/BiQuadDesigner/index.html
The order of the data has to be changed so that the b-terms come first; with the a-terms first as shown, the miniDSP s/w throws an error.

Hopefully you can get me going! Thanks beforehand.

Jan
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SHD Biquad 6 days 21 hours ago #64907

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Well, it's not formatted correctly and you have the wrong sampling rate for the 2x4HD.
Regardless, those coefficients don't look correct for the filter you're trying to achieve.
Is this just a simple 100Hz low-pass filter with Q=1.0?

I suggest to use the info/spreadsheet located here:
www.minidsp.com/applications/advanced-to...d-biquad-programming

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SHD Biquad 6 days 20 hours ago #64909

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Thanks Dave, that's helpful! I did play with the sample rate in that online calculator, and got a non-protesting reaction from the 2x4HD but the curves were weird.
Then I switched to the spreadsheet you mentioned, that looks like a cool tool!

After a bit of trial and error and swearing I got it to work with the proviso:
Do not use A0, since it is 1 it is not needed but if you include it it gives an error;
Start with the b-coefficients, then followed by a1, a2 ...

So I think I'm all set now and will continue my adventure with biquads!

PS I don't see any possibility to set or read the sample rate in the Device Console. 
Should that not be matched to the spreadsheet SR? Did I just miss it?

Jan

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SHD Biquad 6 days 20 hours ago #64910

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BTW If you re-arrange the output cells in the spreadsheet a bit you can insert the whole thing into the miniDSP in a single copy-paste.


Jan

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SHD Biquad 6 days 19 hours ago #64911

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Jan,

Good progress.
You don't have the option to change sample rate in the Device Console.  Each of the platforms has a native sampling rate.  It's up to you as the user to generate your biquad coefficients with the proper sampling rate to match the platform you're using.

Yes, on all the tabs of that spreadsheet I reflect/rearrange the coefficients into a blank area of each sheet in the proper format for easy copying/pasting.

Good luck.

Dave.
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