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correct routing with 2.2 system? (Bonus Sub integration question) 4 months 2 weeks ago #61240

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hello there , david here.. a minidsp noob :) just bought a minidsp SHD and im kinda happy with it but I dont know how to set up the routing with two subs, look at the two pictures and pls tell me witch is the right one?  (subs are output 3 and 4), the subs get louder with all 4 activated but I may think "stereo" setting (2 boxes like output 1 and 2) sounds better.. the sub signal in music is almost always mono anyway or am I wrong?

bonus question.. If im happy with the front L & R sound but wants to adjust the subs/integration can.. is there any sub-measuring setting in dirac that only measure/adjust  lets say 20-100hz and then saves that to an allready existing/saved filter?

question nr 3: Is Dirac 1 and 2 in minidsp software just input left/right?

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correct routing with 2.2 system? (Bonus Sub integration question) 4 months 2 weeks ago #61242

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The second option is better because the lowest frequency sound in music is not always mono. To optimise things you really want to set crossovers and delays in the miniDSP plugin before running Dirac Live. You'd need to learn to use Room EQ Wizard to do this properly. 

Q2 - No.
Q3 - Yes.

There is nothing wrong with your English  .

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correct routing with 2.2 system? (Bonus Sub integration question) 4 months 2 weeks ago #61243

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Ok thanks, then I go with all boxes activated. Im really up to learn everything i need to know, Im happy with the SHD but I missing someting from my previous setup (integra DTR AV receiver from 2009) with the same setup front/subs and amp, I think the SHD sounds a little more "digital" and not as warm and the subs seems to integrate better with the integra AVR.. maybe just a setting thing I hope, I have 4 weeks to decide if I gonna keep it or not..

I have done two dirac measures and after each measure i need to set filters/delay again.. as if it not saves? Maybe cuz i save it as a new preset? I maybe have made all measures with no filters then? In the dirac live software there has always been a preset/filter with a check in the box at left side while measure..

will google Room eq wizard , is that something in the dirac or minidsp software or just some FAQ?

Edit: ok, Room eq wizard  is the program REW.. cant i set filters and delays before measuring with dirac.. in dirac software?  or is that not an option

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Ok thanks, then I go with all boxes activated. Im really up to learn everything i need to know, Im happy with the SHD but I missing someting from my previous setup (integra DTR AV receiver from 2009) with the same setup front/subs and amp, I think the SHD sounds a little more "digital" and not as warm and the subs seems to integrate better with the integra AVR.. maybe just a setting thing I hope, I have 4 weeks to decide if I gonna keep it or not..

This will almost certainly be for the reason I gave above - you want to be integrating the subs using the miniDSP plugin as Dirac Live doesn't do this in the way that your AVR probably did.

This is not the optimal way to do it but the following will get you started:

www.minidsp.com/applications/subwoofer-t.../sub-integration-rew

(What is optimal is a lot more complicated so start with the above to get the idea.)

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Thank you, I will go trough that setup..  Also found this: www.minidsp.com/applications/rew/rew-autoeq-step-by-step#match   , is that something I will continue with after?

And... If i make a new measurement with dirac live.. in the end I get a target curve, if I just continue and save to a preset without touching anything.. is that target curve saved into my SHD/filters then or do I manualy need to adjust the curve to match the taget curve in some way? AS with rew or an external EQ? I tought/thinking the dirac automatically adjusting to the target curve in the internal EQ?   Thats maybe the case but just wondering  

now im gonna try to integrate subs...   I guess I will have many questions here on the forum this weekend, really intresting community..   
 

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Thank you, I will go trough that setup..  Also found this: www.minidsp.com/applications/rew/rew-autoeq-step-by-step#match   , is that something I will continue with after?
 

No. Dirac Live will do a better job of the same thing. It's setting the crossovers and time delays that Dirac Live can't do.

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Regarding Dirac Live target curves, start with the default and see what you think, then adjust it from there.

I prefer only running Dirac Live up to about 150 Hz rather than over the full frequency range, so that would be another thing to experiment with.

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correct routing with 2.2 system? (Bonus Sub integration question) 4 months 2 weeks ago #61248

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Thanks!  When im ready with REW and got a file with crossovers and time delay.. I guess i "flash" it into the minidsp SHD.. Is that file then always active in the SHD in the background? On all presets and even if I make new dirac measurements/saving new presets the REW file / filters / delays is always activated?

and.. how do i set dirac live to work to a certain frequency, lets say 150hz as u told? 
 

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Thanks!  When im ready with REW and got a file with crossovers and time delay.. I guess i "flash" it into the minidsp SHD.. Is that file then always active in the SHD in the background? On all presets and even if I make new dirac measurements/saving new presets the REW file / filters / delays is always activated?

and.. how do i set dirac live to work to a certain frequency, lets say 150hz as u told? 
 

No. You use REW to help decide what crossover and time delays you wan to set, but you enter them manually in the miniDSP plugin. Have another look at the link I shared for you above as it shows this.

Also, read the Dirac Live manual so see how to set it's frequency range. You'll learn other important things too.
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Im in the process of measure time dalay in REW, first i measure Left, then right and so on.. I have my subs ON.. should i turn them off and bypass crossovers for the fronts ?

following this right now, i guess i will continue with the sub integration after

www.minidsp.com/applications/67-room-eq-wizard-rew

also, my USB cable is around 5 meters.. will this be a problem? seems to working ok.

so many different manuals to read and I dont really know where to start and what settings i should have when i start.

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