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SHD and Logitech Media Server 7 months 2 weeks ago #55192

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I haven’t tried as I hastily added the squeezelite plugin to volumio before trying the SHD with just the LMS Bridge.

If I get time this weekend I’ll try volumio/squeezelite plugin without LMS bridge plugin and LMS Bridge plugin without volumio squeezelite plugin!!

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SHD and Logitech Media Server 7 months 2 weeks ago #55193

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thanks. presumably uPnP bridge has to be set to full processing mode forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103728

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SHD and Logitech Media Server 7 months 2 weeks ago #55195

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No, if you use squeezelite as renderer. If you use volumio as dlna renderer yes.
SHD as Preamp, Squeezelite player and roomcorrection.
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SHD and Logitech Media Server 7 months 1 week ago #55207

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If you have an lms up and running, it makes definitely no sense to use dlna. Just use squeezelite and be happy.
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SHD and Logitech Media Server 7 months 1 week ago #55260

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Guys - I think I've given you a red herring....

The squeezelite plugin is not working for me in Volumio.

I assumed it was working because I loaded the squeezelite plugin and everything was working with the squeezebox app including volume control.

However, as explained above volume control only kinda works - no need to go into that again but I tried disabling UPNP/DLNA bridge in LMS and could not access the SHD via the squeezebox app even with squeezelite plugin enabled. I then disabled the squeezelite plugin and turned Bridge back on and I could access it again.

Sorry if this created confusion but in a nutshell the squeezelite plugin still doesn't work out the box.

If what we like to call here the "chrissy method" (!) allows control of the SHDs volume via the app then I will give that a try but if not I'll stick with UPNP/DLNA bridge for now.

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SHD and Logitech Media Server 7 months 1 week ago #55264

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I wouldn't use dlna bridge if there is a native solution since it has limitations regarding resolution and sample rate. You bought an shd to improve sound quality and then you take limitations for comfort sake :dry: . This doesn't make sense.
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SHD and Logitech Media Server 7 months 1 week ago #55267

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@chrissy
What native solution are you referring to?:
a) volumio which would mean using an inferior interface which would also be different from all other devices in the home
b) volumio with squeezelite plugin which simply doesn’t work for me - I cant see the SHD with any device when using it
c) the ‘chrissy’ method of applying squeezelite which needs me to ssh into the SHD

Also what are the sample rate and resolution limitations you refer to with DLNA bridge? At the moment I only have flac files on my network.

Thanks
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SHD and Logitech Media Server 7 months 1 week ago #55270

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I don't use dlna bridge. The last I have read was that there is no gapless support, no synchronization . Probably you will have to resample higher bitrates or dsd to pcm. I don't see any use of using this converter if a native squeezelite implementation is available, thats all, even if you have to ssh into shd. It's a job of 5 minutes or less. Maybe you do some reading in the thread on forums.slimdvices.com by yorself, I don't like doing this job for other people, especially on topics I'm not interesteed in.
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SHD and Logitech Media Server 7 months 1 week ago #55271

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For clarification:
DLNA Bridge DOES support gapless playback.
I've also read it doesn't support synchronisation but I only use one device at a time so not a problem for me.
I don't resample files, I stream them direct and don't use any higher resolution than flac so not a problem.

I wouldn't use dlna bridge if there is a native solution

But what is the native solution you referred to earlier?

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SHD and Logitech Media Server 7 months 1 week ago #55272

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Do whatever you wish, the native solution is to use squeezelite with all the benefits of squeezeboxes and no hastle with converters. The bridge is supposed to get dlna only boxes to work somehow. Nevertheless it's a great piece of software, if you really need it.
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SHD and Logitech Media Server 4 months 4 weeks ago #56020

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Hi,
here are the detailed steps:
1. Extract the squeezelite file from the zip file (linux executable, no extension)
2. Use windows explorer to copy the executable to minishd (\\ip_of_your_minishd\Internal Storage)
3. ssh into minishd and issue the following commands:
sudo mv /opt/squeezelite /opt/squeezelite_old
sudo mv /data/INTERNAL/squeezelite /opt/squeezelite
chmod ugo+x /opt/squeezelite
4. Use a webbrowser (for example firefox) to go to the configuration page of your minishd and configure the squeezeliteplugin to your needs, save will restart squeezelite and it should work. (don't forget to set -R vE:::24 -r 44100-196000 -s ip_of_your_lms_server at
the extra parameters tab)

Greets
Christian
 

Thanks Christian. I managed to get squeezelite working using your instructions.  Aside from the addtional sudo, it might be worth pointing out  for the benefit of newbs such as myself that you have to activate ssh using the hidden \dev tab soe time before step 3. I spent some time shaking my head at PuTTy and winscp before I worked that out

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SHD and Logitech Media Server 4 months 4 weeks ago #56021

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Hi @adeacock, can yo describe the step yourself? I keep meaning to try the Chrissy method but have no idea how to ssh into the SHD! 

Thanks 

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SHD and Logitech Media Server 4 months 3 weeks ago #56033

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First (assuming you have done chrissy’s step 1 and 2) you need to activate ssh, which you do by going into the /dev page from the SHD volumio browser page. 
then I suggest you download PuTTy onto the pc you are using to access the SHD volumio page
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
you run PuTTy putting the IP address of the SHD which will open a window equivalent to the screen of an old fashioned Linux command prompt system. You need to enter the user name and password you get from MiniDSP support. 
then you follow Chrissy’s step 3 onward. When you put in sudo you may have to put in the password again. Don’t forget to put in sudo before the last line. 
Then put in the correct parameters in the volumio squeezelite page 
Hopefully when you then play from the LMS prompt on your lms server you will see volumio (or whatever else you called the volumio swueezelite in the plug-in window) appear as a player. I think The SHD has to be set to LAN when playing via squeezelite, which I was only able to engage manually on the remote not by the volumio input control. 
hopefully this will work. I have to confess that following instructions is pretty much the limit of my Linux skills. 
 
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Helpful, thank you. 

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SHD and Logitech Media Server 4 months 3 weeks ago #56037

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@adeacock,  I found the page (http://minidsp-shd/dev/) 
When I click on "enable" ssh AND enable the log at the bottom of the page I see this message: info: enable SSH service success. 

When I start Putty and connect to the SHD via its IP address I'm asked for "Login as". This is where I need credentials from MiniDSP support right so I raised a ticket with them

moving on to steps 3 and 4 I've a couple of questions:
When issuing the following commands, do I copy paste all the below at once and hit enter or do I do it line by line:
sudo mv /opt/squeezelite /opt/squeezelite_old
sudo mv /data/INTERNAL/squeezelite /opt/squeezelite
chmod ugo+x /opt/squeezelite


Also I'm confused by step 4.
What is meant by "don't forget to set -R vE:::24 -r 44100-196000 -s ip_of_your_lms_server at the extra parameters tab"
Is this something I haven't seen yet and that will become obvious once I get through step 3?
I know the ip of my lms server, it is the "-R vE:::24 -r 44100-196000 -s" part that I don't understand!

Thanks
Alex



 

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