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Config save, sync, re-open 1 year 5 months ago #57229

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Not really a newbie to the device but first time I have had to do this with my MiniDSP HD.
I have a few question about reconnecting, starting where you left off, and syncing. I know the basics of sync vs restore.

I did a lot of work and saved a config I liked...has PEQ on input and output with multiple slots used..  I saved this config when I was done to a file. And the device was running those settings.

3 or 4 months later I needed to bypass all my eq.  I quickly determined that bypassing every single eq slot, and remembering which ones were already bypassed would be a hassle.  So I used a free config slot, made it flat for my temporary use and switched to that.

To go back to my last config from a few months ago the plugin slot 1 was probably my last settings, but I used that file i had exported and put it in config 3, it synced to the device and I am good.

My question is next time I connect and hit sync, I assume my plugin be at the exact same place and settings  as the last time I opened it if I didn't make changes.

I read you cannot exactly download what is in the minidsp into a config slot....and in my opinion that should be one of the 3 connect choices.  Sync, restore, or upload from device to pc.

But if my logic above is correct, I always have the safety of my file config backup.  And if I know say config 3 is where I left off, I can make future adjustments there..Or if not sure, use that file and load it.

Is my logic on how this works correct?

And of course whatever settings and peq I had live in the plugin when connected to the miniDSP, when I unplig USB, it will run with those until synced again. 

And when you sync, what config does it load?  Config 1 ormthrnone you are on?
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Config save, sync, re-open 1 year 5 months ago #57262

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So....what I have done is bring up a configuration with the settings I want during testing. Then I move to another configuration slot that is my everyday live configuration, the minidsp switches as I get a message, then I unplug the USB.

Seems to work but still kind of squishy on this.
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Config save, sync, re-open 2 months 6 hours ago #64014

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It has been a while since this post.  Has this process improved at all?
Can someone provide a detailed answer on what exactly, sync and restore do?
Not the basic manual....I have settings saved on all my presets. I plug in the MiniDSP HD.
what do these 2 options do if 1)the preset i am on matches what is loaded in the device or 2) the preset i am on is NOT was is loaded to device.

Upload to PC is explanatory....it blows away the preset you are on with the device settings.

Any help would be appreciated. Hopefully this forum still has some readers.
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Config save, sync, re-open 2 months 29 minutes ago #64019

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As per the manual (page 20), sync copies what is in the plugin to the miniDSP and restore reverts the selected preset to the factory default.

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Config save, sync, re-open 1 month 3 weeks ago #64023

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Thanks. I am one of those strange people that reads the manual so have read that.....more than once 😀

My issue is that simple explanation does not sync with what I have experienced over my time using the product.

What option copies, syncs, restores, the settings in the *device* to the selected preset? So if you do not recall exactly what preset you were on when you last connected to the device, and since you still cannot name them, that can happen easily.

Also, the restore language "restore reverts the selected preset to the factory default"....this would imply that it resets all EQ to zero. Is that correct?  Not sure that is my experience. Perhaps restore should be called factory default.  Because there is also another way to reset the device to factory defaults I believe. 

Not trying to be difficult or complain, it is just not intuitive to me and can destroy lots of EQ work if you choose the wrong button.

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Config save, sync, re-open 1 month 3 weeks ago #64025

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What the default is varies with device I think, in that I think the 2x4 HD may default to having some active crossover filters whereas the SHD series do not.

In terms of your other question I'm not quite sure I understand what it confusing you but let me try to describe what happens in case it helps...

If you have a single miniDSP then the best thing to do is to never change settings in the plugin when the device isn't connected. That way when you reconnect to the device you won't get any pop-up asking about sync/restore, and any changes made are immediately applied to the device. If you connect and the plugin setting are different then you'll get the sync/restore question that behaves as I described. What you don't have is an option to keep what's on the device as it already is, so it's best to have saved configs for each preset in case this happens.
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Config save, sync, re-open 1 month 3 weeks ago #64033

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Thank you. That does help a bit. 

My issue is, after a session I may have 2 or 3 presets I have been using.  After disconnecting I would backup all my presets.  And of course to do that you switch to the preset.

Bottom line is I need to either do those backups while the device is still connected or if I do it while disconnected I need to switch to the preset I left the device in before closing it.  And certainly before re-connecting to the device.

It wpuld be SO much easier if we could rename the presets. And an option/prompt where the device overwrites whatever preset the plugin is in makes so much sense to me.

Thanks for dealing with my questions. :)

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Config save, sync, re-open 1 month 3 weeks ago #64034

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My issue is, after a session I may have 2 or 3 presets I have been using.  After disconnecting I would backup all my presets.  And of course to do that you switch to the preset.

Bottom line is I need to either do those backups while the device is still connected or if I do it while disconnected I need to switch to the preset I left the device in before closing it.  And certainly before re-connecting to the device.

It wpuld be SO much easier if we could rename the presets. And an option/prompt where the device overwrites whatever preset the plugin is in makes so much sense to me.

Thanks for dealing with my questions. :)

BJB

OK so the solution to the first point is to always save configs while connected to the device. This is what I've always done and I see absolutely no reason that doing this is any sort of problem or limitation.

Regarding being able to name presets this is a feature of the new Device Console software which with be being rolled out to the 2x4 HD (I think that's what you have?) in the not too distant future.

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Config save, sync, re-open 1 month 3 weeks ago #64047

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Thanks. Yes I do save each and every preset. The new plugin that allows renaming of presets will b pe great. Hopefully soon😀

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Config save, sync, re-open 1 month 3 weeks ago #64058

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Hello.
I have faced with the same issue using 2x4HD.
And from my experience, there is a real issue.
Let me describe it.

All professional digital devices (mixers, system processors, amplifiers etc) offer a simple choice while one connects them:
Do I want to transfer settings from the offline editor (programm) to the device or do I want to get current state of the device to the computer?
Syncronise PC with Devce or Device with PC?

So if I have a tuned device but want to edit some settings.
And I connecting this device by laptop which has not saved presets for exactly this device which button should I press?
For example I suggest to my client to buy 2x4HD for his studio, tuned it and wanna edit them after some time but I lost presets or have another PC or someone else had tuned it before and I don't want to lose what's on the device - How can I keep the parameters while connecting to it?

Or if I modified the preset but forget to save it and shut down the computer - what should I do?

As I studied this question I come to the answer - I should syncronise the device only if I save the config preset.
Otherwise I should re-tune all the settings which is not convenient (sometimes not possible) at all.

So I think that programmers need to change the "Restore to factory default" button to "Transfer settings to PC" in the next firmware.
Is it possible?

BTW. Restore to factory defaults button is very dangerous while connecting to device.
It should be placed to pluging inside and work only with connected device.

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Config save, sync, re-open 1 month 3 weeks ago #64059

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So I think that programmers need to change the "Restore to factory default" button to "Transfer settings to PC" in the next firmware.
Is it possible?

@devteam have previously stated that it is not. Everyone would like to be able to do what you describe.

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Config save, sync, re-open 1 month 3 weeks ago #64065

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@Dkrot,
That is a great explanation and I 100% agree with you.
I will be taking snips of each PEQ setting before disconnecting next time as a backup.  Of course the export is my main backup.
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