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Hi. Does anyone know if I would need to buy two Dirac licenses for two Flex devices?  Or would one license cover both?

Thank you.

alan-watts wrote:

Hi. Does anyone know if I would need to buy two Dirac licenses for two Flex devices?  Or would one license cover both?

Thank you.

You would need one for each device on which you'd want to apply Dirac Live filters. You cannot share a licence between devices to do this. 

What would you intend to be doing with the two devices? Just asking as if you'd be using them together in the same system then you'd probably only need Dirac on one of them...

Thank you.  If you don’t mind, maybe I could get a sanity check on the setup as a whole?  Feel free to let me know if this is more than you bargained for! Changed the title to match the topic better.

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I have two rooms, that are next to each other. They always play the same music concurrently, but sometimes I have one or the other or both zones switched on.  That is currently achieved through a receiver speaker selector.

These are not critical listening spaces, and there is no central listening spot.  The purpose of dirac will be to create one correction project for each room, that sounds better than without.  I’m hoping dirac can take an ‘average’ measurement of each room from various spots I tend to spend more time.  I do *not* intend to create a blended correction project that averages both rooms together.  Just one separate average, for each separate room.

ROOM 1: 2.1
ROOM 2: 2.1  

Both flexes and both amps, for both rooms, will be  in room 1, to replace the current receiver.  I have cables running from the room 1 cabinet, to room 2 (left, right, sub).

The reason to have two flexes was so that i could have room correction projects for each room running concurrently. I ordered 2 x  flex balanced with 2 x dirac licenses already.  Looks like they won’t ship until march.

Each flex would have its own hypex 2CH amp with xlr inputs.  The amps would be on at all times.  I’d intended to switch the flex units on/off depending on the zones desired (1 / 2 / both).

Sources are roon pi streamers and a turntable.

I would have a separate roon endpoint for each flex/zone, and those zones would always be linked through roon’s software, so their outputs are synced. I went with flex and separate streamers, vs shd, for future flexibility and cost. 

I would have an rca Y cable split the signal from the TT preamp to the analog inputs of each flex.

The one optimization I was trying to think of was a way to pass my source signals ftom one flex to the other, but not seeing a way to do that.

Does this setup make sense?

Will I need a separate dirac license to take measurements in my mac, besides the two flex licenses?  

Again, thank you.

This is difficult because you say you've already placed an order but honestly I don't think Dirac Live is a good idea for you. It's designed to try to optimise performance over a reasonably small area in a room, not the whole room.

Also, will your two spaces be separated by walls and closed doors, or are we talking two rooms/areas right next to each other and not isolated while you're walking between them? If the latter then Dirac Live is even less suited to this, as sound from one area will interact with sound in the other.

Edit: although I should perhaps say I've never tried what you're proposing to comment from experience of this.

To answer your final question though, miniDSP Dirac Live licences are tied to the devices themselves, and don't need some sort of additional licence associated with the computer you use. 

Thank you.  You are correct, that this is the worst possible scenario/environment for acoustics, and sound quality.  The rooms do interact sonically, and there is no focused listening zone. It gets even worse considering that the speakers are on shelves in room 1, on wall brackets in room 2, and well anove ear level in both. But…I think one could make the argument that dirac is actually ideal *because* the environment and setup is such crap.  The goal here is to go from “cringe” to “reasonably enjoyable”, if not “half-way decent”.

The plan was to use the “wide” arrangement, which uses 17 measurement points, instead if 9 for the more focused arrangement.  It’s still not meant for a whole room as you point out, but I figure that if I can use wide, measured at the center of the room for every day listening, but then take an alternate set of measurements for more focused arrangements (sitting on couch in room 2 with room 1 off) i can do even better.  I believe I can create presets for each scenario. 

Regarding my purchase, I actually wasn’t aware that minidsp had such a rigid refund policy!  Talk about being out of sync with the rest of retail.  So I guess I’m stuck with my flexes.  I was considering an upgrade to the shd to integrate roon, but not sure if they would even accomodate that. 

Yes, you can save presets for different scenarios.