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TOPIC: SHD with WIFI streaming.

SHD with WIFI streaming. 1 year 1 day ago #45174

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Thank you Robert! Yes I'll check that.
cheers, Tom

(PS - not trying to hijack, wifi interface is a new feature and if others are having the same problem, thought this was pertinent. apologies to all if not so)
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 1 year 1 day ago #45175

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It's under the My Music section of Volumio. Odd place, I would have expected it to be under Network...

Cheers,
Robert
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 1 year 1 day ago #45176

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withdrawn, problem fixed, see post 45170
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 1 year 1 day ago #45178

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tomjordan wrote:
Thanks for your further comment. Yes I have UPnP enabled in the Music Player tab of the .local Volumio app. Here's a screenshot showing that setting, also the MacOS settings showing the shd as an Airplay device. In this configuration, Audirvana streams music to the shd but only at 44/16 resolution because the protocol is Airplay, not UPnP.

The Volumio manual says "Both protocols (UPnP and Airplay) are implemented by default in your Volumio device and nothing needs to be configured there..." (volumio.github.io/docs/User_Manual/Stream_audio_to_volumio). If I understand the rest of that paragraph correctly, Volumio relies on the streaming source device (MacOS) to define the preferred protocol. As you can see in the attachment, the MacOS controls don't provide any way to reset the shd protocol from Airplay to UPnP.

I don't know what else to do, would be grateful for any further suggestions!

cheers, Tom

Try disabling Shairport sync and see if UPnP kicks in.
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 1 year 16 hours ago #45195

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"Not sure if I am supposed to make a new thread, but I was using my brand new SHD for about an hour, streaming music from Qobuz through wi-fi (it was working great), until i got the spinning ball circle. tried reloading the page and keep getting the ERR_CONNECTION_RESET or ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED error. I am hearing this chime come through my speakers every 10 seconds or so, as if to say "im still on, but not connected." Anyone know what the heck is going on?"

Same for me, the web app (WebUI) locks or loops several times a day. I usually have to reboot the SHD to restart it. Reinstalling the Volumio kernel has not fixed the problem for me. Hoping for a kernel update sometime soon.

-- UPDATE-- I was using an early version (1.038). These problems are reportedly fixed in later versions.
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47412

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I'm wondering if anyone knows a solution to the first question?
I recently got a new SHD and I keep having the same problem. I have updated all software to the latest versions, but connection to the device via wifi breaks constantly. When turning the device on all works fine, but after few random minutes the minidsp web interface stops responding and refuses to reload or reconnect. When this happens, the device disappears from "Media Devices" seen by my PC (running Windows 10). SHD is, however, still seen in the network by my wifi router. The problem can be fixed temporarily by switching on-off SHD, PC or resetting the network, so the problem is most likely coming from software or settings. It also seems that after disconnection SHD may sometimes randomly come back to the network without doing anything. I have tried setting a static IP for SHD, but it does not help.

All advices are greatly appreciated.
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47414

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Confirmed, this was one of the problems I included on a list of a more than a dozen bugs that I found and shared with Volumio and miniDSP a few months ago. It's too bad, everything else about the SHD Studio is so outstanding.

I finally stopped using the Volumio interface. I moved the Studio next to my listening position, connect my laptop to it by USB, and run an AES cable from the Studio to my DAC. That works beautifully, 100% reliable, no UPnP problems and superb sound quality. FYI AES is what recording studios use and has two advantages over SPDIF coax: data transmits at a higher voltage and the cable is balanced.

-- UPDATE-- I was using an early version (1.038). These problems are reportedly fixed in later versions.
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47415

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tomjordan wrote:
Confirmed, this was one of the problems I included on a list of a more than a dozen bugs that I found and shared with Volumio and miniDSP a few months ago. It's too bad, everything else about the SHD Studio is so outstanding.

I finally stopped using the Volumio interface. I moved the Studio next to my listening position, connect my laptop to it by USB, and run an AES cable from the Studio to my DAC. That works beautifully, 100% reliable and superb sound quality. FYI AES is what recording studios use and has two advantages over SPDIF coax: data transmits at a higher voltage and the cable is balanced.

Perhaps miniDSP support can give us an update on the Volumio bug fixes?

Hopefully this problem gets the attention of the developers soon. Unfortunately due to my living room arrangement, for me wireless is a "must" and one of the reasons why I decided to go for the SHD in the first place. Since this problem makes streaming practically impossible for me, I'm quite annoyed. I will try if direct ethernet connection from the router works as expected and if it does maybe one workaround might be getting something like this: www.amazon.com/Wireless-Ethernet-Network...dapter/dp/B01GF6GST4
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47416

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@kajan another thing you could try as an experiment would be to temporarily place your SHD close to your WiFi router to see if it works better. This would help distinguish a hardware issue with the WiFi receiver on the SHD from a WiFi signal strength issue in the SHD's usual location.

From your post it also sounds like your issue may actually be different to that in the first post but let me check. Are you just experiencing an issue with the web interface or does the music stop playing unexpectedly as well?
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47417

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-- UPDATE-- I was using an early version (1.038). The problems I found are reportedly fixed in later versions.
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47418

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"another thing you could try as an experiment..."

-- UPDATE-- I was using an early version (1.038). The problems I found are reportedly fixed in later versions
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47419

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tomjordan wrote:
FYI I tried that (put a WAP right next to the Studio), made no difference. The problem is software bugs in the Volumio kernel.

I suggested putting the SHD next to the primary WiFi source which is somewhat different, for the reason I explained above.

Regarding the bug point most people manage to use SHDs without significant issues so there must be more to this. I occasionally see that the web app loses contact but the music never stops and it usually reconnects on its own after a couple of minutes.
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47420

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I should have said that my use is principally with Tidal and Radio Paradise.
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47421

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"most people manage to use SHDs without significant issues"

-- UPDATE-- I was using an early version (1.038). The problems I found are reportedly fixed in later versions
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SHD with WIFI streaming. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47423

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tomjordan wrote:
"most people manage to use SHDs without significant issues"

Really, using the wifi interface? How interesting... I spent much time on this with miniDSP tech support and finally the founder of Volumio and that's not what I heard from them. But if the Volumio network interface on the Studio works fine for most people, glad to hear it. Except for the network interface, everything else on the Studio works beautifully.

I use an SHD not an SHD studio but for streaming I exclusively use WiFi and am happy with it. I wouldn't have thought there was a significant difference between the two devices in this regard though?

I'm confident I'm far from alone in my experience as otherwise this forum would be inundated with people posting to complain about problems. It is not.
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