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Now that all that is sorted out


I have another issue with this version

I run win10 and “sys32” there’s no such directory. Can desktop plz be the default?
If I changed the directory it would remember that next time I open rephase now it always go back to sys32

I’m mean really who stores rephase files in sys32 folder ? Dosent everyone use there documents folder or a main windows user folder

It wouldn’t bug me if I had a sys32 folder , just I have to select my folder every time now, before it would remember. Also before I could install the app, now ever time I open rephase a blue screen pops up and says not trusted and I have to click run anyway and it won’t let me put icon on desktop (anyone know a work around )

denver8me4dinner wrote:

I see what’s going on.

I still think reversing the polarity sounds worse .
Even if it’s a purely minimum phase setup.
I would rather live with the shift than play any speaker backwards

But I need to try this now!

So in a LR2 it looks like you should only linearization on the high pass and both sides will be linear

Not sure this is clear, or if I am misunderstanding what you state here, but both sides of the crossover need to be made linear-phase.

Here are three equivalent ways of building a linear-phase 12dB/oct crossover:

1. use a linear-phase 12dB/oct low pass filter and sum it with a linear-phase 12dB/oct high-pass filter
2. use a minimum-phase 12dB/oct low pass filter, invert it's polarity, linearize it's phase, and sum it with a linear-phase 12dB/oct high pass (minimum-phase+ linearization, or linear-phase to boot)
3. use a minimum-phase 12dB/oct low pass filter, invert it's polarity, sum it with a minimum-phase 12dB/oct high pass filter, and linearize the phase of the summation

denver8me4dinner wrote:

Now that all that is sorted out

is it?

denver8me4dinner wrote:

I run win10 and “sys32” there’s no such directory. Can desktop plz be the default?
If I changed the directory it would remember that next time I open rephase now it always go back to sys32

I’m mean really who stores rephase files in sys32 folder ? Dosent everyone use there documents folder or a main windows user folder

It wouldn’t bug me if I had a sys32 folder , just I have to select my folder every time now, before it would remember. Also before I could install the app, now ever time I open rephase a blue screen pops up and says not trusted and I have to click run anyway and it won’t let me put icon on desktop (anyone know a work around )

Looks like you are running the rephase executable from within the zip archive.
When doing so windows will unzip the executable each time you click on it, and set the system32 dir as the start directory.
(by the way that directory does exist, you simply do not have the permission to write in it)
rePhase uses its start directory as default directory, so you simply have to copy/extract the rephase executable to another directory to solve you problem.
That zip archive is only meant as a distribution/compression container, and the user is supposed to copy the rephase executable where he sees fit.
I should probably just distribute the exe file directly to avoid such problems in the future.

pos wrote:

denver8me4dinner wrote:

Now that all that is sorted out

is it?

denver8me4dinner wrote:

I run win10 and “sys32” there’s no such directory. Can desktop plz be the default?
If I changed the directory it would remember that next time I open rephase now it always go back to sys32

I’m mean really who stores rephase files in sys32 folder ? Dosent everyone use there documents folder or a main windows user folder

It wouldn’t bug me if I had a sys32 folder , just I have to select my folder every time now, before it would remember. Also before I could install the app, now ever time I open rephase a blue screen pops up and says not trusted and I have to click run anyway and it won’t let me put icon on desktop (anyone know a work around )

Looks like you are running the rephase executable from within the zip archive.
When doing so windows will unzip the executable each time you click on it, and set the system32 dir as the start directory.
(by the way that directory does exist, you simply do not have the permission to write in it)
rePhase uses its start directory as default directory, so you simply have to copy/extract the rephase executable to another directory to solve you problem.
That zip archive is only meant as a distribution/compression container, and the user is supposed to copy the rephase executable where he sees fit.
I should probably just distribute the exe file directly to avoid such problems in the future.

I don’t know ,


I’m going to try it in real life today and see . (So I’m a little slow hey I’m old man now I can be slow, )


Pos , as usual you saved the day
Thanks a ton I’ll download the other one also, yes it was a diffrent download than usual.

Thank you kindly

So in my car, this -180 passband on lowpass I can’t tell, it still sounds better not reversed


So i am trying it in our soundroom at work, and it does flip it , only when I use a 12db LR LPF and no HP on the other side of the speaker. So in this instance I would reverse the polarity.

I don’t know why the car is behaving so diffrent
All other crossovers act the same way. Polarity sounds normal. I think the extreme amount of combfiltering makes it very hard to tell what’s what to the ear or being offset. I don’t know
This is a learn-Ed moment for me I guess


But at least it makes sense on why Pos added this, it is correct and should be kept. I need to investigate why the car is not acting the same

Finally figured out why


Both the LP and HP need to have the same acoustic center and be on same plane for polarity flip to be noticeable

And the dsp I use a lot at work (twk88) seems to add the polarity flip for you....which really screwed me up (except it did it only on the HP)
I had to measure it to figure out what was screwy